Factions and kitpvp had the most frequent and common updates alternated repeatedly for months. It did not improve the player base. You're literally suggesting something we did for over a year straight when payouts were allowed. No payout means no buycraft prizes, which is what my previous comment was saying. Like jerry said, without payout no one is going to play. It seemed like you agreed and then suggested we do a payout. Sorry, we just got unblacklisted from mojang, we're not looking to get reblacklisted. So what is happening? We began updating the servers that had been neglected for the time we invested in kitpvp and factions and now that we started doing that, you feel neglected and insulted? What exactly is the discussion here?