Factions Season 17 Pre-Announcement

Discussion in 'News' started by Ezzerland, Dec 22, 2020.

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  1. iGorilla

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    @vaping to be honest, most faction servers aren't that competitive anymore, minecraft itself ultimately isn't a game that's enjoyable anymore (there are better games out there). Competition is hard to judge what's comp and what's not, You asked me to name a server, but it's not about what faction servers allow allying. You see what happens is, ironically the people who like having allies search for servers that allow allying which brings upcoming factions to servers that allow ally ship, compared to people who like no-allies go to the servers with no-allies, and if you're talking about competition, I can't name any good servers that have comp, because most of them are private / whitelisted. But my question is, what's that got to do with J&H having allies / no-allies. You know J&H isn't a competitive faction server, why even mention that. Maybe your asking a genuine question, if you are then, I'll let you know, factions is a dying game that's also why youtubers / content creators. are moving away from factions. KitPVP is starting to glow-up more, but that's a different topic. Obviously there are some faction servers that are doing alright, don't get me wrong. Also I don't consider myself a faction player I use to be utter shit, to be honest, I can cannon now, I can pvp a lot better, ect. But it still doesn't make me feel like I should play factions on a regular basis. I can't tell if you're trying to insult me, or your asking a genuine conversation either way, I answered it. Allying is apart of factions, it might not be anymore? but that doesn't stop it from originally being in factions as a gamemode. My point is, J&H will never be known as a competitive faction server, maybe there's a few players that played who are / were competitive but that doesn't make it a comp server, don't get me wrong J&H isn't a bad faction server. Anyway I think I answered your question vaping. It's Christmas I probably won't reply back if you decide to reply, anyway.
     
  2. pvpcatsbestfaction

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    PVPCATS will NOT be returning.
    also theres a 99% chance somebody is gonna figure out how to break /roam so yea
     
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    Lame! Everyone else is trash without PVPcats.
     
  4. Siere

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    pvpcats folded ggXD
     
  5. Ezzerland

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    Correct. Don't team and don't ally or expect both of your factions to get a strike. If you want to be teamed, be in the same faction. Simple as that.
    It's not competitive, it's impractical. If you're a 20 man faction and you got 40-50 ppl coming at your base during a raid, your chance of defending is slim. And how are you trying to make the argument that a new-to-the-server faction benefits from allying? Allying with who?
    You mean there is a possibility of a new feature getting used in unintended ways? I guess that means we should not try new things so that we don't have this concern. Maybe then PVPCats will rejoin! Honestly, I'm not fond of the feature either. But I think it has some up-sides that are worth trying.
     
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    which youtubers play kitpvp and are popular tf LOL?
     
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  7. iGorilla

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    @Ezzerland doubt you read all of it, so I'll try shorten this one down for you.
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    Getting attempted by 2 allies isn't impractical getting raided is, I guess. Sorry I must've made a little mistake, my bad. You can't say it's impractical to fight off two allies that's pretty practical if you ask me, judging by what you said you didn't read it all (which is fine, no worries I'll explain it by shortening everything)
    • J&H isn't a competitive server, but this doesn't mean it's a bad faction server, and it may have had a few competitive players, regardless of that, it doesn't make it a comp server either way.
    • If you're talking about competition it's about winning and grinding, no-matter the circumstances. Whether you're getting raided by 2 allies or not you should be able to defend if you count your faction competitive.
    • And what do you mean by, who are the new players gonna ally with? You said it's a week to make a faction or whatever... and people are bored on the server? If some new faction plays some they would be able to ally-up or be friends with each other.
    • Regardless of allies people prioritize which player to target / kill during pvp it's not like anyone has control over who teams with who, other faction servers have tried stopping ally ships 90% of the time, it doesn't work out in the end.
      Not trying to come out rude, just trying to prove my point, and let you understand what tryna say.
     

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    JnH has payouts, therefore there will be competitive factions, therefore is a comp fac server. Even though they haven’t reset normally it’s still a competitive aspect.
    You’re saying you don’t mind fighting a 49 man instead of a 20 man, whatever goes your way my guy. You seriously underestimate the amount of people some people can log on to road someone.
    this statement made no sense whatsoever, someone said this earlier and they can take credit but if a new faction who decides to comp the server, they will prolly wait till next season if they miss the grace period to make a faction. And what do people who are bored on the server have to do with anything? If they have a new factions and the period is over, their only choice is to join them. If the new faction does join and they make their own faction within the period why would they need to ally with their friends, they have their own faction and should play with their members.
    Name which servers have done that and it failed. the only complaint i have is that you can’t ally on KOTH, yes i believe you shouldn’t be able to ally on koth, but a small mutual neutral between two factions to knock the capper of another faction should be allowed since the whole goal is to knock the cap, if you ally while capping actively that shouldn’t be allowed but that is off topic.
     
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    @iGorilla How exactly is this helpful? Have you played factions here before?
     
  10. iGorilla

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    @CertifiedScammer LOL, it's a separate sentence, but YouTubers do play KitPvP / PvP servers that is what I generally meant. Again, I can't tell if your tryna defend factions as a gamemode itself, but if you are tryna defend it as a gamemode, it doesn't work the way you're tryna do it, lmao, my expectations are you already know it's a dying gamemode compare to other gamemodes. Maybe you don't agree with any of the shit I've said, but what's the point in making a separate point to mine. The reason I said it's a separate topic is because, it's not irrelevant in this conversation. I'm not dissing any of you, if you get butt hurt, you can't expect me to give a shit. But fair enough I can understand why you asked that question, lmao.
     
  11. ItsAvi

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    name the kitpvp youtubers that are known
    I main kitpvp but yah i’m definitely tryna defend factions since i’ve only played like 2 seasons ever while i’ve played kitpvp for over 2 years
     
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    dying gamemode compared to what other gamemodes?
    are you new here? fac resets bring the most players by far
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    skeppy and badboyhalo bro cmon
     
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    ok pro kitpvp players best worldwide nevermind my point proven wrong!!!
     
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  14. iGorilla

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    Ok, I'm talking about in general factions is dead / dying as a gamemode.
    @CertifiedScammer You seem really pissed, that I've judged factions as a whole LOL you needa relax, I'm just speaking the truth, why would I bullshit about factions just because I dislike the gamemode, I don't dislike it. Also I've mentioned this earlier today on the 1st page what's competitive and what's not is hard to judge.
    @t3mptr3s Yh I've played factions before, lmao, have you? I was utter shit, like I said earlier. Then I wanted to get better so I started practicing cannoning back in June-August got decent, then started pvping more, now I haven't got the time, nor do I feel the need to play factions.

    You lot seem so pissed OFF, LOL actually relax, it's minecraft come play GTA or some shit, you ever feel the need to hop off? Also if you read the full paragraphs (which I know are long for you guys to read) Also competitive isn't ''winning money, yay'' LOL go to the dictionary for real. You disagree with my idea, fair enough. You go off topic on shit and waste my time, starts to get on my nerves, luckily I can make time for this 10-15 minutes each paragraph LOL, I ain't sweating out minecraft daily, you dislike it what I do? I've said this, I'll judge you by your point not the other shit. I don't dislike anyone in the community, but @Siere you made my point stronger when you said how factions is the most popular gamemode; on the server. New players can ally with people, and people are bored on the server at the moment just saying.. so ofc they might end up going to the nearest gamemode that's updating / the new season of facs.
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    but this new guy i found out on youtube about is really good at pvp.
     
  15. Ezzerland

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    @iGorilla idk why you're gettting so upset and aggressive just cuz I don't agree with you needing an ally to be competitive. Allies aren't happening this season. It's okay bro.

    Between the two of us, I'm the one that has had a career in competitive play. If you want to try and educate someone on the meaning of competition, I suggest you first try entering a competition. You'll quickly understand that the spirit of competition is not to assert your allies over your opponent, but rather, your own actual skill. Even in the team environment, it's your own team's coordination amongst one another combined with individual skill. Competition, by nature, is about entering a balanced environment and prevailing by showing superior skill. You don't need an ally to make it "more" competitive. That's what your faction is for. This isn't kitpvp where it's every man for themselves and having a team is victory.
     
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    Not pissed just saying your thoughts on allying is something i don’t agree with, you say factions dying as it’s the most popular game mode on the server. it’s also funny how the “kitpvp youtuber” you mention has less than 500 subs, yes he’s good at pvp but that really doesn’t prove any point that’s he’s a popular youtuber. and for wasting time, you are solo arguing about something no one on the server agrees with thinking if one person has an opinion it should change the whole aspect of factions, the server doesn’t work like that lol. You can’t bring an opinion that goes against the server and no one agrees with it and expect to get a good result.
     
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    haha...
     
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  18. pvpcatsbestfaction

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    Add me and jovan to the pre season test so we can try to break it
    Also T3 please take the pvpcats name so nobody else can

    Wrong, factions resets bring more active players and tends to have them stay longer than compared to kitpvp or prison resets. This is because people like factions more than kitpvp... pretty simple

    All the new players on j&h dont last very long because nobody invites them, so thats not why either.

    the fact that you keep writing full essays on why factions suck with very aggressive writing leads me to believe that you are the one who is mad here.

    btw ally change is good, with allies PVPCATS could easily stomp the entire map in a week

    pvpcats never fold! dont make me bring back the blindness pots
     
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    play me? :o
     
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  20. pvpcatsbestfaction

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    we did for like +3 maps and you didnt get close any of those times
     
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