trump got covid

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  1. t3mptr3s

    t3mptr3s ~ Emotional Support Staff Member ~ Staff Member Mod+

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    If it's not a hoax...

    I think it's humorous that the person who wanted to play the situation down contracted it. Am I happy he's ill? Well... I'm of two minds over this, I strongly believe the man is mentally ill. Second, to have a physical illness.. I don't find joy in it. I do not want that type of karma. Nor do I want Pence in office.

    Keep in mind, I've though this man was trash in the 80s, long before many of you were born. I could explain this but honestly I do not care to. I've said the one thing that we're guaranteed when it comes to Trump is one day he'll die just like everyone else.

    And ily Ben but I'm not going to debate or go over a point by point explanation of what others feel or believe. I do not find joy in the misfortune of others unless we're talking about the shit talkers in kit.. that's something altogether different.
     
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    To be fair most literally everything he has done since he gave a speech to run for office in 2016 has come under fire by the same liberals and democrats that don't treat him with any respect. They don't like him, so he doesn't like them. That's just how that's worked since the beginning, but it shouldn't be this extreme. So your point of trying to achieve unity is definitely true, he should be doing that, and he's not doing anything about it because, frankly, it really isn't possible to do right now. He also doesn't care to even try at this point
     
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  3. retirednow

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    Neither statement is wrong :)


    No one should take what I'm saying as support for Trump, just to be clear (because firstly I don't support him, secondly I don't want my relatively calm reaction to his antics to be misconstrued as support, third I won't comment on the merits of this happening but I don't want to lose friends because the way I disagree with how people choose to react to his antics gets misconstrued into support for him). I guess my point is that we can spend about 1/10 of the energy on him that we normally do and still do our part in successfully navigating this mess of a political climate. I see the way people react to certain things he does in a way that I liken to unhealthy obsession.
     
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    To the people who are happy Trump got Covid: Be careful what you wish for. It is entirely possible that Trump is widely unaffected by this and that will in turn only make his stance stronger.
    If you're happy that Trump has covid, you're not doing the Democrats any favors here. "Im happy that someone I strongly dislike got a potentially fatal virus" isn't exactly going to win over any voters. This is exactly why Joe Biden took the high ground in this. Biden showed sympathy towards Trump (like any morally upstanding person would), but then used it as an example of why preventive measures are important. He was compassionate and got his point across.

    Yes, it is ironic that the man who consistently downplays and ignores public health experts got the virus. But that doesn't make it a good thing.
     
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    Politics/elections/greater impact aside, if someone punches 200,000 people in the face and claims they didn't do it, it's inevitably quite satisfying to see them get punched in the face themselves.
     
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    I laughed reading this, amazing example
     
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    As a United States citizen, to see someone who has refused to work with their people on dire issues such as racial justice, school funding, lgbtq+/women's rights, and has only lied throughout his entire Presidential career, how can you feel bad for someone like that? Over 200,000 people have died over his lack of attention for correctly dealing with a virus, nonetheless, blaming an entire group of people for an issue that they did not cause. He has denounced the people of color for their rash actions when all they want to see is change, even imposing a "Muslim ban" because of an assumption he made. He has been splitting up families immigrating to the United States who hope to live a better and safer life by leaving them in camps where kids have an immense chance of never seeing their parents ever again. He defends those who believe in a "White America," strengthening the image of this country to be based on white fragility, which would end up turning the country into shreds after people are at one another's throat once they realize how ridiculous everyone's acting.

    Nobody is doing this for the vote; we are here to put someone in their damn place and to make sure other voices can be heard when we say that we hope that he gets what he deserves. I am a compassionate human being, and I know what it means to be human and to make mistakes, and correct myself if I'm wrong about something. I will not stand behind someone like him because of his acts of pure greed and despicable attitude towards his nation, which he swore to protect and failed to do. This man got what he deserved, and we hope to see the worst out of it. We've seen too many innocent lives disappear in front of our eyes because of what he has done to make this country into what it is today.
     
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    So I said that "."Im happy that someone I strongly dislike got a potentially fatal virus" isn't exactly going to win over any voters." And your response seems to be "ya well I really don't like him"
    At no point was I defending the man. My point is that openly celebrating that Trump has Covid does absolutely nothing to help the Democrats. Democrats have a great opportunity here to say "Ya, we hate what Trump has done to this country, but we are still concerned about his health because he is still a human being."
    That doesn't mean you have to vote for him, it just shows civility. This is even more important when Trump inevitably goes on some stupid tirade once he recovers from covid.

    Side note, I've seen this a few times and it drives me nuts.

    Look, I strongly dislike Trump, and Trump deserves a lot of criticism for how the virus was handled, but to say that Trump is somehow directly and solely responsible for every case in the US is radicicolous and, once again, something that does absolutely nothing to help the Democratic party.
    4 of the top 5 states with the highest covid deaths per 100,000 people are liberal states. Are those Democratic governors responsible for the deaths in their state?
    This needless finger pointing doesn't do anything. Trump did stuff wrong. Talk about how he hosted a rally where the city officials begged him to not come. Talk about how he routinely undermines medical experts. Talk about how he encourages this anti-masker bullshit. Talk about how Trump tried to force schools to reopen. Talk about how Trump suggested injecting yourself with bleach or whatever. All of these things are inarguable facts that show Trump did not handle it well.
     
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    Okay... I will be the asshole here because well.. I can.... the Democrat states having a higher count than Republican ones is based on a May 2020 study and that was how many months ago? I live in a Democrat state and we have a lower count. Truth is.. it's the states with the highest travel counts and bigger cities that see those travelers. Like California, Washington and New York. Ya know the Democrat lead states. Bottom line... the disease does not give a fuck what your political leaning is. Remember, critical thinking is a thing.

    Edit to Add: Yes it being as bad as it is, IS Trumps fault. He pretended it was not as deadly as it is. Look at the countries in Europe after Italy had that insane outbreak. They closed the borders and self-quarantined, masked, and social distance without crying like whiney bitches about Oh no my rights... if Trump would have said.. we need to do this this and this. They would have listened to him. But he didn't. Blood is on his hands.
     
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    Hatred towards the hateful doesn't cancel out the hate. It intensifies it and validates it, and it can be used to justify behaving like the other side for different reasons.
     
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    See I don't hate anyone. Wanna know why? It would cause me a lot of physical pain. Like my stomach would be on fire and my bones would feel like they were going to break. A few years ago I learned that nobody is worth the energy. Nobody is important enough for me to gaf to be that angry at.
     
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    Maybe he should inject himself with bleach that'll fix it
     
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    "Don't be afraid of Covid."

    "Don't let it dominate your life."

    I wish this weren't the case but there are stupid and naive people out there who are going to take his word as meaning they can go around and ignore basic health protocols with physical (social) distancing and mask wearing. This virus has killed over two hundred thousands Americans and we haven't yet hit the winter months yet, along with the lack of a vaccine that will probably take many more months (at the very least) to release to the public; and even then, it'll most likely be many months after that until the actual public, and not specifically the higher class, is given access. And it'll probably cost a crap ton when we get to that point
     
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    Every president is under fire by the opposite party. Trump is allowed to not like liberals and democrats. However, including it in his rhetoric and using propaganda that says they are destroying the country is unprecedented and unpresidential. It creates divide and hatred. Obama came under fire, and you didn't see him saying republicans were evil. Biden has said over and over that he wants to be the president for both democrats and republicans. Bush didn't say anything like Trump has said. People dislike Trump, and trump used that to make liberals and conservatives hate each other. Polarization makes it easier for him to get elected.

    "he's not doing anything about it because, frankly, it really isn't possible to do right now. He also doesn't care to even try at this point." You're right. It's his fault that things are this way to begin with. No one made Trump hated. Trump made trump hated, and now we suffer the consequences as people still want to vote for him.
     
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