2024 Election Thread

I guess I stand corrected by virtue of not knowing the name of your country and using the information you provided as a basis for my claim
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Update on kamala's media blitz:
Looks like all the networks got their script from the DNC

 

XXX, I will take you up on your offer of sharing evidence.

However, very disappointed in this whole 'discussion.'

Showing staged pictures to clown Kamala. So what. Every politician including Trump does that. Everything they do is a media show. They are a damn puppet.

Clowning on corporate media, yet not providing or giving weird sources.

Using the your work and travel as evidence you are well versed in world views and what people want. However, the way you have treated people's views in this thread makes me believe you would not care or consider any other views.

The way you have been acting in this thread is just so off putting no matter who you vote for. I do not care if you're trolling (which you obviously are).

I am not going to discuss or convince you of any political views because I do not need you to understand what I believe. It is okay to be different.

But I will address the thing you said that is about a certifiable fact:
Trump lost the 2020 election just like Hillary lost 2016. The fact that a section of this country believes otherwise is insane. Sound like flat earthers or the moon landing was fake people. Every facet of government has confirmed it, unbiased news sources have confirmed it, everyone and their mother. Yet for some reason, a small amount of people think he did win. Mainstream media is against trump because the majority in this country do not like him. The majority of the people voted against him. He lost the popular vote in 2016. People do not like him, especially because of his manner and rhetoric.

You are allowed to like him. However, to say he did not lose in 2020 is wild.

It is not a genocide. The situation is not black and white.

 

pls redact my name, this request shouldn't be a surprise if you've been reading the thread

Literally the post above this

My convictions are strong from my experiences so what?

Sorta. There are elements to this that were/are a social experiment but I'm keeping those details to myself. Srry that you're offput by an internet forum :/

Corrupt and untrustworthy

These are just as real as unicorns lol

Except for the one "insane section" of the country?

If you think mainstream media is a reflection of the "majority", you are absolutely delusional and your other decent points lose value. This couldn't be further from the truth and I had to read it a few times to make sure that's actually what you said. You really can't say this immediately following a lecture on facts and expect to retain any credibility on the subject

This is actually why I like him lol. We need a killer in charge. Get this compassionate shit outta my government

K lol

They fought these petty blood fueds and holy wars long before the US existed and will continue after the US stops existing. Why any of we Americans give a shit either way is astounding to me, given the history here.
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It's interesting that there's room for nuance here but not the 2020 election. Many "sources" you cited in support of Trump losing 2020 treat Israel/Palestine like a black and white issue.

Care to elaborate?
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Been happening for hundreds of years and will continue for hundreds more. The asshole today is the victim tomorrow. Who cares

 

What a weird definition in a vacuum. Killing members of the group? Yes, Israel is fighting a war against Hamas that uses its own people as human shields.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that is leading to the Palestinian people's destruction.

@daddymemegod69
message me so I can see the evidence.

 

In the end of the day, the sole purpose of an election method is to provide a definitive winner, so it should be a black and white issue. Distrust in your democratic system does add nuance but I don't think it's the kind of nuance you would want to have. That kind of stuff can end in empires falling down.

What happened here though is ignorance of important nuance, which makes it look like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a simple one with a clear "good and bad". I think most people who do even a little bit of research come to the conclusion that this isn't the case here..

Fortunately for you, America has the twenty second amendment so you get to keep playing the same game with different candidates, even if you lost one time (something I wish we had so don't take it for granted lol).

 

Correct. This is a contributor to one of my greatest fears. Whether you accept the reported results of the 2020 election or not, this is a major issue and to just discount the people who distrust the system as crazy is not fixing anything.

I'm honestly not convinced you would give my evidence the time of day. Having said that, if you actually are interested in considering this viewpoint, watch a documentary called 2,000 Mules. If you are interested in learning more after watching that doc, I will DM all the evidence and we can discuss privately.

Spoiler

Disclaimer: the filmmaker behind the doc is definitely considered by the mainstream as a right-wing grifter and I personally don't really love his style, but a lot of the content in that doc is valid and should be considered. He really leans into the fear-mongering part of the base. If you could just get past that and pay attention to the people he interviews and the CCTV footage shown, I think you would really consider an alternative viewpoint.

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This is obviously a meme where I had to redact some of the language but anyone can tell a story with a graph and manipulated data
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Imagine this: you live in rural Vermont near the Canadian border. You check your game cameras on your farm to see what the deer are doing before hunting season. You see this.

Close the border today. Right now

Source: VTDigger by way of the Newport Dispatch.
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Kamala Harris luring supporters to her rally by promising “Beyoncé” only to have her speak for 3 minutes is exactly the sort of upset and deceit you can expect from a 4 year Kamala Presidency.

This kind of gaslighting is why I haven't believed anything they've tried to tell us since 2020

 

This conflict has been going on since the 1940s, whilst Hamas was established in the 1980s. I grew up in the aftermath of the troubles in Northern Ireland, whilst I agree with the prospect of Ireland being reunified, I do not agree with the actions of the IRA, though I can understand why they were established and their actions, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter as they say.

The other common argument is that Israel has a right to claim the land historically. Okay, got it - if the Italian descendants of the Roman Empire showed up on British soil tomorrow and claimed the nation as their own, would that mean it’s correct? No.

Israel has been responsible for multiple war crimes, such as the bombing of schools, hospitals, refugee camps and the like. Please also note their current aggressions on Irish peacekeeping soldiers from the UN, I also would refuse to support such a nation who refers to innocent civilians as “vermin” and wants them exterminated, whilst also posing such a negative view on my own country for standing their ground and imposing sanctions on them for their actions.

Disappointed to see such a view come out in this thread personally.


anyways regardless of this as it’s not really relevant to the thread, got a week or so to go until this election happens. Last time out by this point it seemed pretty clear cut that Biden was going to win the election, but this time round it seems very up in the air as to who’s going to take it. Interested to see where it goes.

 

Much longer. Hundreds of years

Jeezus lol

Betting markets tell a different story

 

1. was a ballpark figure, had just woken up in all fairness.

2. didn’t stutter did I?

3. from what I’ve seen the betting markets in place haven’t been American based companies, so I’m taking them with a pinch of salt. Also a side note that I’ve never met a bookie who’s poor :)

 

Follow da money
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No you just made me laugh a lil
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I want the American empire to expand instead of fall. Our Manifest Destiny did not end in the stinkin 1800s. In my lifetime, I hope and expect that we'll take Canada and Mexico.

You can hope I'm just trolling. We'll see