Wow. It actually happened.

Discussion in 'KitPVP' started by Ransei, Jul 28, 2019.

  1. Ransei

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    I don't know how this is possible. They made kit pvp more pay to win. The regular kits get killed in two hits. Two Hits. How do you expect us to get money to enchant armor and get good loot but their is a giant team of at least five donators with full god kits. Its impossible unless you have an inside with them and manage to convince them to team with you. Their is no fighting back, You must just accept your fate. I'm perfectly fine with teaming but some of this is just annoying to fight against. Your completely grouped up on by five donators trying to get the one single kill to win a twenty dollar prize. It was bad last season but now their is a reason to get on the leaderboards you just can't leave spawn. The gamemode needs to be at least playable. You need to be able to fight back. This new season is the most pay to win, I've ever seen. This is back to map 1, the best map we've had but the same mechanics, You can't get god gear if the god gear people kill you before you can get god gear. The new mechanics with crate keys drops is stupid. The one way for someone that's not in god gear to get something actually good now drops it when 5 god gear people who bought keys so many keys can just two tap you and they get it.
     
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  2. Skillz

    Skillz Former M.o.d Donator

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    Diamond armor only costs $20 now. All you have to do is play a bit until you end up killing enough people (who aren't in Diamond) and you'll be able to buy Diamond armor. XP bottles are also very cheap, so you can enchant yourself the same gear people who bought crates have. Although it's a bit harder, it's still possible and not completely Pay2Win.

    I strongly disagree with the fact that Kitpvp is Pay2Win for one simple reason. I have [God] rank and I'm not "winning". Even people with the Hero kit aren't "winning". The problem here is that Kitpvp is Team2Win. If you're teamed with all the good players who have Diamond sets you're going to "win". The Kitpvp warzone isn't supposed to be a place for fair pvp fights/1v1s. If you're interested in fair pvp I would suggest playing in duels instead.

    I believe in Map3 they removed Enchanted Golden Apples so new players/people in general had a chance at killing people in Diamond sets. This map, they've tried making it easier to kill players in Diamond sets by making Enchanted Golden Apples expensive/hard to get. So if you're good at pvp and the person you're looking to kill isn't in a team who will 2v1 you, you could easily kill the person. So "winning" in Kitpvp does still require skill. The only problem is the fact that it's Team2Win and that teaming makes it a lot harder to play if you're not teamed with other players.

    If they banned teaming or enforced a rule preventing people from teaming a lot of people wouldn't be happy. It would make Kitpvp a lot less fun to play for many other players. So if they want the majority of players to enjoy Kitpvp, they'd just keep things the way they are, which is what I see them doing. This has been a problem ever since Kitpvp was released, and there's nothing you can really do about it other than to avoid fighting people in Diamond sets.

    I just want to reiterate how it's incredibly easy to get yourself a Diamond set just like all the other players you see out there and how if you're good at pvp you can easily kill them too. The only thing donating does it make the process faster. It's just harder for you, but it's still possible so keep trying!

    EDIT: Another great solution to your problem is asking if any of the people in Diamond sets are willing to team. I used to have the same problem as you, but then I asked if people wanted to team. They asked me for Emeralds/Money/Gaps/Keys, and I paid them. Afterwards I was teamed and managed to get myself up to #2 (for a while) on the leaderboard last map. Just keep in mind they might scam you.
     
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  3. Ransei

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    EDIT: Another great solution to your problem is asking if any of the people in Diamond sets are willing to team. I used to have the same problem as you, but then I asked if people wanted to team. They asked me for Emeralds/Money/Gaps/Keys, and I paid them. Afterwards I was teamed and managed to get myself up to #2 (for a while) on the leaderboard last map. Just keep in mind they might scam you.
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    That works for some people, but lets look in the eyes of new players. The god kit people have been playing with each other for a while, their is no way for a new player to collect said money if they drop and immediately get killed. Most of the players won't team for free.
     
  4. Skillz

    Skillz Former M.o.d Donator

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    Like I said in my previous post: It may be harder but it's still possible. If you have a lot of skill in PvP it's not hard to pull yourself up to the top.
     
  5. untuned

    untuned I untune the tunes. Donator

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    But even that is hard when you have 5 people waiting for you to come down so they can 5v1 you. The server itself is "pay 2 team 2 win". If you don't pay, good luck getting up from the bottom.
     
  6. Skillz

    Skillz Former M.o.d Donator

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    If they're waiting for you to come down.. why would you do so? You should be trying to jump down to kill players with similar gear to yours while avoiding the people in Diamond sets. If everyone down below is in a Diamond set just don't jump at all and wait/play another time. It's a lot harder but it's not impossible. Now going back to my original post:
     
  7. Timyus

    Timyus The KitPvP Guy Donator

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    theres no way to get around the fact that the owners need money to run the server and giving in game items for money is the only way to it, also you only played the first day of the new map, the very first day everyone is playing EVERYONE it gets easier to go as the map progresses
     
  8. Ransei

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    The server has died down a lot since the release of the season the players still playing have the god loot. They will be playing for a significant amount of time everyday to for the new prizes brought for being on the leaderboard.
     
  9. Skillz

    Skillz Former M.o.d Donator

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    I don't understand how the fact that the Owners require money to maintain the server relates to what's being discussed here unless you're implying Kitpvp is Pay2Win, which it isn't. As the map progresses, there will be less new players/people with bad gear to fight meaning it will actually become harder as the map progresses since there won't be many people to kill and more players in Diamond sets killing you.
     
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    Timyus The KitPvP Guy Donator

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    Im just stating my opinion that this is crazy hard to do anything. You can hardly leave spawn let alone find someone else around your armor level that left spawn.
     
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    Ezzerland Staff Member Administrator

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    Couple things to note:
    The kit changes weren't made to make things p2w, but to bring kits back to similar to what they were on map 3 per the request of the many. Last map we made changes to make the kits all more OP gear and people said this same thing, so to us it's hard to see an issue when the same thing is said no matter the changes.

    I went on an alt and played for about 30 mins yesterday and got 20 kills with pretty few deaths using just the 3 free kits. I did this by using the platforms in the corners and the outskirts of the map and avoiding the gang of 5 OP guys in the front main section of the map.
     
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    I’m starting to believe that its p2w. There are that invaded kids they have been buying keys. They got hella god apples. And like i had to kill 60 people to afford a god apple. #changethepriceofgodapples
     
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    Ezzerland Staff Member Administrator

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    Price of god apples already changed.
     
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    When lol
     
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    3 hours ago.