The Doxing Threat Epidemic on IJAH

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  1. t3mptr3s

    t3mptr3s ~ Emotional Support Staff Member ~ Staff Member Mod+

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    I will apologize in advance for the length of this post but this is something I feel needs to be said.

    I’ve been a member of IJAH for a little over a year. In that time, I have noticed several things. There has been a rapid cycle dating between members. Afterwards, there is a lot of bad blood involved between these people. Following the break-up or falling out there have been a lot of dox threats. Most of these dox threats involve nude pictures that were shared. As a woman, a gamer, and mostly a Mom the behavior I’ve seen from IJAH members worries me.

    Initially, I wondered if the people who take these pictures understand why they do it. Is it for attention? Is it because they need to feel wanted? Do you need a rush and because it’s dangerous it gives you one? Are you doing it to impress someone? If you take these types of pictures, please think long and hard about why you’re doing it.

    Then, I thought about the legal repercussions, which I assume most are unaware of. I’ve worked for several attorneys and I’ve seen first-hand what charges can be brought up. In 2009, in a case that was local to me, three 16 year olds were charged with distributing child pornography. The girl and boy dated for a few months and after the break up the boy shared it with his friend. In similar cases in the US and EU, it has caused kids to have to register as sex offenders. That is something that will follow them for their entire life.

    This past spring, an 18 year old boy and his friends were arrested for collecting files of thousands of nude pictures of the underage girls they go to school with. They then distributed this file online. The charges they face are: Second-Degree Encouraging Child Sexual Abuse and Using Child in Display of Sexually Explicit Conduct these charges include a minimum 3 year jail sentence and mandatory registration as a sex offender.

    To the people who have been dox’d in this way. If you put it on the internet it will always be online. It doesn’t matter if you share things on Snapchat, Discord, Skype etc. or if you delete it afterwards. You may initially trust the people you send them to but you never know if a friendship or relationship will turn sour. Please start protecting yourself. You do not need to send pictures to people to prove a point or to get them to like you. Remember, if you’re a minor whether you took the picture or not, in some places you are just as guilty as the person who shares it with other people.

    To the people who are dox’ing these people. I hope you realize even if you hide behind the internet and vpns, you can still be traced. You can still be prosecuted regardless of what state or country you live in.
     
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    what in sam's heck happened
     
  3. ThiccTurtles

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    Never understood fully why people started sending nudes in the first place. Just my personal opinion, but it's kind of disgusting to show people you naked unless in a long term relationship, and also not on a phone where it can be spread like wildfire. Generally, it never ends out well, especially if you're just a kid.

    This thread is a great reminder not to do that stuff. Thanks for that!
     
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    I was going to make a thread like this but you took the words right out of my mouth.

    Especially if you and/or the reciever are under 18, DO NOT SEND A NUDE OR REVEALING PHOTO, simple as that. If somebody much older than you asks for a nude, they are not your friend, and it’d be wise to block them. Any kind of photo can be shared with anyone else, and if you’re under 18 and the picture is of you, you can be charged as well.

    It might sound cliché and like a dumb PSA, but it’s true, and it’s happened several times before.

    Let me put it a different way: Imagine having it on your criminal record for the rest of your life that you distributed/solicited nudes over Minecraft, a children’s game. For shame.
     
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    my question is why would you want to see a naked teenager, that sounds disgusting
     
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    t3mptr3s ~ Emotional Support Staff Member ~ Staff Member Mod+

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    Why would a hormonal teenager want to see naked pictures of another hormonal teenager?
     
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    because they’re hormonal? xd idk
     
  8. KaiserVenom

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    I did not even know this was even an issue, let alone in this community.
    Never really payed too much attention/wasn't in the position to know that it was, but I definitely take position with the fact that this is an issue in the first place.
    This really shouldn't be a problem at all, I cannot understand the logic (and especially the morality) behind why someone would willingly share nude photographs of anyone against their will, not to mention for the purpose of blackmailing them or for any other purpose for that matter. People need to be smart and just avoid doing that as a whole, it's a bad idea to be sending images of oneself like that over the Internet period, it is never worth it
    I cannot stress how much I contempt I have the people who have the will to go out and practically ruin others.
    I have a lot more to say, but here I've said enough.
     
  9. Saul1337

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    Great thread, like you stated many people are unaware of the fact that when they send pictures of themselves or receive these they are committing a crime which can lead to a very ugly charge on criminal records.

    Al though I'd like to add that Doxing itself is not something that is completely based of something like sending or sharing naked pictures to others.
    It's a term used for people who find information about the other person that is private and share it online for everyone else to see, the topic of your thread is certainly a part in that but it's also important not to forget the other things people do when they dox another person.
     
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    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    Let's face it, majority of people (myself included.) have met and dated somebody on this server. No word of a lie that I haven't seen some of the people I've broken up with the same way as before, and some people you just don't like after.

    Still, regardless there is no need to dox. We've thought about it before, well most of us, admittedly me. Thing that stops it is to put yourself in the receiving end's shoes. Imagine you break up with someone, you're hit hard by it, and guilty etc. Doesn't help that suddenly your full name, address, IP, Phone number, school etc is leaked to the public, not helpful whatsoever. I was victim of a dox one time around 8 months ago or so. I had my phone, social media, full name etc leaked. Constantly had forums spammed, death threats on Instagram, random phone calls, the usual stuff.

    It was an absolute nightmare, and it's not something you want to go through.
    (I mean, it's pretty obvious what my first name is, everyone who has spoken to me knows it's Joey, it's my forums name ffs, so stuff like this kinda stays on the internet, y'know.)

    Moral is: Think twice, and maybe one more time after that before doing something like that, even if it's heat of the moment.

    Nonetheless, great message!
     
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    I never really understood myself why someone would send a revealing picture of them-self in the first place, not just online to a person you've never met face to face before. It really should be common knowledge about this stuff and I don't know if it's just me but my school put us through a ton of assemblies solely based on online safety. That's one of the mere reasons I'm thankful for going to school for all these years because I learned that nothing is safe on the internet.

    Child pornography is a felony. The younger kids these days should continue to be reminded that anything shared digitally can be retraced and returned even if deleted. Nothing is safe online. And for those wondering why I am very secretive about my IRL stuff on here, then you now know why.
     
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    To answer your question "Why would someone send a picture like that":
    a) They are horny
    b) They want attention
    c) They want to have cyber sex, as stupid as that sounds

    (We were talking about this with @Saul1337 the other day and some people use nude pictures as a currency. That is mostly found on 4chan and other platforms like that but anyway)
    Same reason why there's a teen section on pornhub lol
     
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    While sharing information has been the main focus of dox'ing. The biggest issue on the server is that the dox'ing has been including these types of pics on a more frequent basis. It's getting out of control.
     
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    I have never heard or seen anything about this, of course it isn't a topic that is openly discussed.
    Not even in my years as an Admin have I had to deal with this or was there any word about it, mind sharing some things you've heard in PM whilst keeping certain information anonymous? I'd like to understand the scale of this issue like you do.
     
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    Besides even sending nude pictures on here, why do people even feel the need to date over MC. It's not even real dating and its just cringy.
     
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    THANK YOU for this thread. I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

    I've always been 'against' nudes due to the possibility of them being leaked and shared around like it's nothing, it disgusts me. I wouldn't dare taking a picture of myself while being half naked or naked. My self esteem is too low for that, and besides, I've never heard a case where 'sending nudes' turned out fine.

    If you don't take nudes in the first place, they can't be leaked either.

    Thanks for bringing attention to this.
     
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    think twice, cry once. think once, cry twice
     
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    i mean, yeah. sending nudes is fucking stupid. but i dont think doxing is that bad.
    out of the blue dox threats are, but unless you abuse that power, it's not bad to me.
     
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    I feel like risking having strangers in other countries know my phone number and address would be pretty bad. That stuff is incredibly sensitive info, and once it’s leaked you can’t take it back. Just like with nude pictures, you shouldn’t trust anybody online with stuff like that.
     
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    Similar to giving so many people your Snapchat, I only give people I know it. I've heard about people hacking them to steal pictures.
     
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