Kitpvp is currently bad - desperate suggestions.

Discussion in 'KitPVP' started by Hayden404, Feb 25, 2019.

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Do you want the old j&h back?

  1. Yes

    35.3%
  2. No

    35.3%
  3. Map 1

    17.6%
  4. Map 2

    17.6%
  5. Map 3

    23.5%
  6. Map 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Map 5

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  1. Hayden404

    Hayden404

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    Ok, so in my and all my friends opinions, kitpvp map 6 is some hot garbage. I'm suggesting map 3 revamp. The no item drop stuff is completely disgusting and ruins what Jerry and harry kitpvp was. I played jerry and harry because how it worked, God sets, poison, strength, and how its not pay to win. Now it is. The meta is gapple chugging. The potion meta was so much better. It required skill to do well. Now its buy 100 keys, own the server. Please revert to the old jerry and harry.
     
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  2. Aran

    Aran Donator

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    Although the map really isn't my favourite, I do think that the changes that have been implemented are beneficial to every single player out there. This may sound strange to you, but I actually think kitpvp is now way more balanced than it used to be, despite the amount of players that buy keys. Here's why:

    Back when kitpvp became a thing on the server, majority of the players were complaining about how the minigame was heavily based on farm2win, just to get the best armour and stuff that you could get, which resulted in a lot of other players suffering from continuously getting farmed by players that had God gear. Items were very expensive and you'd only get 5 emeralds for each kill you made. To me, this was a major issue that ended up being solved after the following actions were taken:

    Nowadays, most/all items are much cheaper and you usually get 8-20 emeralds per kill (this could go up to 40 or something). This gives every player a chance to buy items for a cheap price and use them strategically, in order to defeat your opponent, instead of suffering from getting farmed until you have enough emeralds to do the exact same thing what you may have suffered from at the beginning. This is why buying keys and even getting them from supply crates (which clearly gives every player a chance to get keys without paying real money for it) were implemented to the minigame. It just gives everyone a chance to get God armour without that much effort and suffering, yet at the same time, it solves the whole farm2win issue that people used to complain about so frequently. This makes kitpvp more of a skill2win minigame as of today, rather than a farm2win minigame, and therefore being more balanced than it used to be.

    Although kitpvp might be a bit more of a pay2win minigame than it used to be, this really isn't a bad thing, since items that you can buy with emeralds have been made much cheaper in return. Both the keys and cheap items have pretty much solved the whole issue that I mentioned above.

    Moving on about how items don't drop anymore; this was done in order to reduce frame lag that some players were complaining about, and just so your inventory wouldn't be overloaded with items that are pretty much useless. Although this may be flawed due to items like golden apples, all types of potions and enderpearls not being dropped anymore, I'm sure this will be added the next map reset.
     
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  3. Hayden404

    Hayden404

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    So they removed the entire concept of dropping someone for their gear for frame lag and a clogged inventory?
     
  4. Aran

    Aran Donator

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    Yes, and not only that. Removing the concept also prevents good pvp'ers that use God gear to become even more overpowered than they already were before, after killing players that are not on their skill level and picking up their God gear afterwards. This also makes the minigame more balanced.
     
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  5. t3mptr3s

    t3mptr3s ~ Spectating Mom Extraordinaire ~ Staff Member Mod+

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    Bringing the old maps back will only cause a temporary increase in player flow. Then it goes back to how things currently are.
     
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  6. hubbo

    hubbo quit Donator

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    My only problem ATM is the fact that you can't drop items. It can be useful for players like me who like to use an entire inventory of items, including speed and bows, but don't feel like wasting their entire kit. Plus it could add some incentive to go for god set players (obv when you're in a god set) for their items (gaps, pearls, weapons) and the high amount of emeralds you could get. Clogged inventories can be cleared out, just take a spawn trip every now and again. Plus, you'd get what you need (rod, bow, speeds) by killing about 5 or so players, so you could just drop their stuff right after the kill.

    IMO, I don't really mind the current META, however I feel like god apples shouldn't be purchasable, or at least more expensive than they are now. I feel like if they were put into crates, it would lower the factor of being comboed and not dying, while you can get 3-shot because your ass is in iron. It would also kind of bring back the potion META, which I also prefer (though, again, I don't dislike the current gapple-style). Also, a slight nerf on reg gaps, maybe 20-30 for one instead?

    Altogether, I agree.
     
  7. EzKitPvP

    EzKitPvP Hello Everyone

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    u are wrong dude. look at another kitpvp servers (more popular) can u see their pvp skills, hits, and villager(market) system ? jerry and harry was good at this but they changed all so its OFFLINE minigame. its not hard. only bring back map3 or map2 + od skills. its easily get more ppl for this server
     
  8. bib

    bib I left minecraft for chess Donator

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    true dat
     
  9. OrbitalGhost_

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    Well atm playing with 5 - 10 people sitting in spawn while your running around WZ doing nothing is pretty boring. Maybe the increased flow will bring other players from other minigames to come onto kitpvp since they will see a bit more people playing also just in general the older maps were better IMO
     
  10. MrEmreK

    MrEmreK |God| Donator

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    I believe that the previous maps are made better, and the item does not fall apart.