Buying Unbans, Changes to Ban System

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  1. GlowInTheDark

    GlowInTheDark Thought I was an atheist, til I realized I'm a god Donator

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    So happy this is right after I was unbanned :) Although, this definitely will stop people repetitively hacking on the server!
     
  2. ItsHarry

    ItsHarry Owner Staff Member Owner

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    The examples you're naming were literally banned over 2.5 years ago. They would get unbanned regardless simply by making an appeal, as we have done with many toxic players in the past. The new system changes nothing.
     
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    hmj Staff Member Helper

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    seeing it like that, it makes sense and i have to say i kinda agree with the incentive now. don't really appreciate the way you responded to me though, i was calm and simply stated my opinions.
    valentino was told to not appeal anymore, so "They would get unbanned simply by making an appeal" is wrong according to you guys last response.
     
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  4. ItsJerry

    ItsJerry Staff Member Owner

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    No, if they pay for an unban they will still get banned if they hack... They won't tho, otherwise they wasted $25.

    If we just unban him right now all you get is a hacker who's free to do what he wants. lol
     
  5. Xad

    Xad ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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    Since when can someone actually buy an unban?
     
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  6. ItsJerry

    ItsJerry Staff Member Owner

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    now
     
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  7. Smg

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    I was iffy with this system at first, specially due to it coming out of nowhere but now I'm intrigued as to how it may work now.
    Bashing it right now isn't going to help, let's just see how it does for the first few weeks and go from there.
     
  8. Haruld

    Haruld Helper Staff Member Helper

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    Maybe I can suggest something to this which many will probably disagree on. Why not do an unban all and if any of the players who were banned come back and continue to hack or whatever, they’ll just have to pay the consequences... litterally(no pun intended)
     
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  9. Cutiex

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    I don't want to cause anything, but shouldn't the unban price be a little lower?
    I can understand that a ban is a ban and that's it, but it's a little too much just to get unbanned.
     
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    TwageTomato Former Mod Donator

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    I think they should be invited to appeal, not just let back in with gates wide open all at once.

    I'm curious to know at what point a player is blacklisted from further buying themselves out of bans, but I guess it's fine if that's staff-only info.

    I agree with @Smg though. I feel really iffy about this new system, and I have some questions about why it was brought about that I think would be better off kept to myself. Nevertheless, I think it at least deserves a shot at being used.

    One question I do have: what about false Anticheat bans? Has the Anticheat been loosened up further, or is it going to be banning people left and right? I'm worried about the AAC (as an automated system) handing out permanent bans on first perceived offense.
     
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  11. hmj

    hmj Staff Member Helper

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    25$ is actually a really good price compared to some servers. I've seen servers selling unbans for 100$+.
     
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  12. Cutiex

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    True, it's probably just me being poor af.
     
  13. Kaiiven

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    The AAC ban will be reviewed if they appeal. If the ban was false, they will be unbanned just like it always has been. The Anti-Cheat is mostly accurate.
     
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    TwageTomato Former Mod Donator

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    If the price were any lower, then a younger person with a minimum wage job and no real expenses could easily go on a ban & unban buying spree to fuck with the server. $25 makes it hurt just enough that such a spree wouldn't be worth it.
     
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    The main goal is to decrease/deter hackers. Not to get as many unbans as possible...
    You can still ban appeal. It's not automatically a "Pay or leave!"

    Also, the AAC is rarely wrong
     
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    I love this ngl

    I've wanted one and done hacker bans for yearsssssss
     
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    So basically the appeals system has changed such that only appeals that either
    A. Plea innocent, or
    B. Plea guilty after 90 days
    will be valid for any action of ban removal?
     
  18. Andy

    Andy Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I have a question for the technicality of buying unbans:
    Say someone gets banned on an IP. If someone who plays on the server on the same IP (and is innocent) purchases an unban, does everyone on the same IP also get unbanned, or is it just the player who purchases the unban?

    In a hypothetical stance, say someone wants to actually play on the server, but their brother is a hacker. Their brother gets banned, so they get banned as well. The innocent person purchases an unban. Would their brother then get unbanned, opening the possibility of him hacking again, getting banned once again, and the innocent person wasting $25? Or would just the innocent player get unbanned?
     
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    Cheez Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    When you purchase a ban all alternate accounts on the IP get unbanned also.
    If you have that troublesome of a sibling i would recommend slapping them lul
     
  20. ItsHarry

    ItsHarry Owner Staff Member Owner

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    We're leaving any sibling feuds to be self-regulated by them. It's the most common excuse we get, there is no way for us to be certain that someone actually has a hacking brother and isn't just lying, and we don't want to deal with it anymore. The innocent brother will just have to make sure the other brother doesn't hack again.
     
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