NBA commissioner Silver takes 2017 NBA all-star game out of Charlotte due to bathroom laws

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  1. YFIOTR

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    Adam silver announced this decision making the NBA's views consistent with Sterling's ban from basketball for outspoken views. This decision supposedly cost the city of Charlotte to not get 100 million dollars in tourism. The NBA didn't want to bring an all-star game to a place with a anti-transgender bathroom law.

    What are your opinions on this regarding

    Is it fair for the Charlotte franchise and the city of Charlotte to suffer for the state legislature's decision?

    Do you agree with this or not?

    Or any other points that can be discussed.
     
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    The NBA is a private entity. It can do what it wants. This isn't necessarily a bad or a good thing, that's just how it is.
     
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    Well no duh. What's the point of your post?
     
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    You shouldn't punish the people for what the government does.
     
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    I'd like to clarify before my post that I have nothing against transgenders, and I completely support the transgender community. Don't get your diaper in a twist.

    I disagree with this completely. I'm not just saying this because I'm pissed the All-Star Game was taken out of my hometown, because they removed it over a law that has nothing to do with basketball. (A stupid law in my opinion. People seriously should just be able to use whatever bathroom they like without anyone judging them. It's a bathroom. Do your business and get out. Simple as that) It's not fair for all the basketball fans in Charlotte that wanted to go to the event. If transgenders don't like the law, then just stay home.

    Honestly, the reason why the world is so messed up now is because people can't be happy with anything. You have to learn that sometimes you just can't have what you want.
     
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    It's perfectly fair and I completely support it.
    The government of the state is representative of the people of said state, so one would think most people in that state would agree with these laws.
    It's not fair to the fans? What about the transgender fans who want to take a piss during half-time but can't because it's against the law. You can't make your defense that transgenders should just stay home, that's just hateful. They should be treated like normal people and be able to do everything that other people can do, especially when that thing is a natural bodily function.

    I think the state brought it upon themselves and they have no right to blame it on the NBA. The state had been in talks to change the laws but the legislation that they were pushing wasn't even what the NBA wanted and it failed anyway. In the end, it's the state's fault and it's up to them to say sorry to their city. They told their kids they were going to Disneyland and now they have to take it back, and that in no way shape or form is that the fault of the NBA or transgenders.
     
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    I don't really like the attitude, but sure, I'll answer your question. The point of the post is that I support the NBA's decision. It would be contradictory to American principles to intervene in their private affairs.
     
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    My apologies, I've been overworked this last week due to the person replacing me always showing up an hour late and it's not going to end. I've been pissed at anything and everything. No excuses but sometimes it leaks out. Thanks for explaining your post though.
     
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    If you want to see the game so bad, then just use the bathroom of the gender you originally were lol. Suck it up. Its not too hard.
    I honestly feel bad for the people who live around the area because they could drive to the game but now since of the tiny percent of tumblr people who get offended by this complete nonsense, they cant and could miss out on a once in a lifetime experience. Its honestly a big fat middle finger to everyone who lives in that area by the trans community. I respect the NBA's decision however, its just the people who forced it to happen which I have a bone to pick with.
     
  10. TheUndeadBrave

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    I think they should have just left the game in Charlotte. Why can't the transgender community just use the bathroom that their genitailia dictates .
    If you have a penis, use the men's bathroom. If you have a vagina use the female's bathroom.

    Idk why the NBA would comply with just 0.3 % of the population, let alone the amount of trans people in Charlotte.

    Just to clear things up, I don't hate transgender people or the LGBT community.

    I will say 1 last thing.


    There are only 2 genders.
     
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    because they don't feel comfortable
     
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    If they dont feel comfortable they dont have to go lol
     
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    I'd the NBA doesn't feel comfortable using that state they don't have to go
     
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    Coming from an actual trans( nonbinary male) person, I think the bill is completely outrageous. It's a basic human right to use the restroom, and everyone should be comfortable using the restroom that goes along with their gender. I hope y'all are aware of the various health issues that not going to the restroom can cause. I either use the mens room, or I don't go at all. I'm sorry that I'm trans! It's something that is out of my control. Y'all make me feel guilty for being who I am. The trans community have done nothing but exist...I don't get how y'all are hurt by people whom have done nothing to you! And just because someone uses tumblr, doesn't mean they're trans/gay or a bad person. You blame a website for nothing. I use tumblr and I've met many great people on there. My experience on tumblr has been great. For me, using the female restroom makes me feel so so uncomfortable, I've actually been yelled at and pushed around for doing so. It's unsafe for me. I'm not going to just "deal with it" Don't tell me to do that. It's the states fault for making such a discriminatory bill. I'm not even sure what else I can say but it's so hard to do things without being scared to leave my own home. I respect the NBA's desicion. Trans people are never to blame.
     
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    I respect your opinion on this, but please just try not to demoralize mine.
    1. Im sorry if you feel guilty.
    2. Im not hurt by the trans community, do what yall gotta do, just dont affect the people who arent a part of it in a negative way such as this incident and were good.
    3. Tumblr has a history of having a lot of people who dramatize the trans community in a negative way. Im not saying all people are this way, im saying -most- are because its true. Im also not saying that they are bad people, I just do not respect some of the crazier ideals that they have.
    4. Then use the male restroom if you cant deal with it. Theyre not going to watch you over it or anything, they have more important things to worry about like ISIS then silly bathroom issues. I guarantee you not one security guard will care at all what bathroom you use if youre trans, because more or so likely if theyre gonna check you for anything its gonna be a bomb.
    5. Look, nothing here should hurt you, or is meant to hurt you. I understand its hard to find your acceptance in your community of trans people. I respect you as well as all the others for sticking to their thoughts and not giving up in the end. With all the sick people in this world, it is very easy for someone to claim that they are a transgender person, go into the opposite gender's bathroom, and if the person is alone they could be easiy raped and there would be no evidence whatsoever as there are no hdden cameras or anything of that matter in bathrooms. They passed the laws not because they hate transgender people, they did it for safety. Yes, it does offend people like you, I understand. It makes you unconfortable sure, but they only want to do it for your protection against the sick fucks, and have to sacrifice small communities like the lgbt. If we were in a better world where there were no people like that, the state would definitely be more accepting towards people like you, but in life sacrifices must be made, and in this case it is no different. I hope that you can understand what I am saying here. Also, please dont take what I am saying as disrespectful in any matter. I find it pretty obvious that you dislike my opinion, but please, dont try to be passive aggresive about that. It does no good for anyone and it ultimately ends up causing a scene and enourmous flame wars here on the forums. You wonder why those things happen, and its because of small indirect callouts like your's against mine that escalates rather fast, so please dont. Thanks.

    In the end though, I hold no grudge against you or your opinions. While some I may disagree with, in the end we have to respect others'.
     
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    I see some people here saying it was caused by pushing from lgbt and the trans community. That may be right but if as I said in the OP, Silver banned Sterling from the NBA due to those comments he made awhile back. So pointing fingers at Tumblr may not be right . Silver was being consistent with the stance they took earlier with Donald Sterling in not tolerating discriminatory things towards lgbt. If he didn't move the all-star game, people would be crazy about him not being consistent and would not be sure with the NBA's stance with these issues anymore. It's best that the NBA stay consistent to keep showing support of lgbt since it is a huge entertainment business and has influence. Yes it's totally unfair to the people of Charlotte but there were things said about giving Charlotte the all-star game in 2019, which would make up (mostly) for it. However I'm confused about what will happen if the law doesn't change by 2019 in North Carolina. If it doesn't, there would have been no point of taking the game out of Charlotte to begin with.
     
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    Donald Sterling was banned for racist comments not discriminatory comments toward the lgbt.
     
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    You're right. My bad. My point is that NBA doesn't tolerate discrimination against minorities.