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  1. Dirtbikes95

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    If I did get "the shit beaten out of me" at least it would be a protest against this bs.
     
  2. Ayg

    Ayg life is interesting :)

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    When I saw the title of the thread I thought it was PSAAAAH DUUDE.
     
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    Public bathrooms are disgusting anyways lol.
     
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    Thank you for making this thread, should help to clear up some peoples confusion
     
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  5. sebastiann

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    [​IMG] I need to use this bc I have had to explain this stuff so much.
    Hello! You call "these people" who are human just like you cis people trans people. Cis is not a word for normal. It's not like we're aliens or something, lol! Like I stated, only with their permission you can call them FTM/MTF. I know multiple trans people whom are comfortable with those terms, some are not. It's not "transgenders", it's trans people. Not that hard to address them by that way. I always use myself as a example (I do not speak for all trans people), I am sensitive and there's NOTHING wrong with that. Everyone has a soft spot. There's nothing wrong with that. Trans people are not pedophiles, I've used the mens room before and I am a trans guy! Nothing happen, I used the stall, washed my hands and left. Easy as that, and no one cared! Nice. Trans women are not men, they are women. I doubt that unisex bathrooms will be made because of funding and the fact the it'd be easier for people to accept and tolerate trans people. Just because we have laws doesn't mean people will stop doing the bad things that they do. Trans people are not to blame for pedophiles. Pedophiles are to blame for their actions. Also there isn't one surgery, there are multiple. They are not easy to get, they cost a lot and you have to be approved by a therapist before you go get whichever surgery you are getting. And not every trans person wants to get a surgery, they may be comfortable with certain areas of their bodies. Everyone is different. The trans healthcare system in this country sucks and it needs to be fixed. I wish it wasn't so hard but hey it is.
    Would you like if I called you a cisy? or any other slur that goes along with the term cisgender? You prolly wouldn't, or you may not even care.
    I'm a trans guy and I hate the term FTM because I was never female. I've always identified as male. Easy.
    It isn't that hard to have common decency and respect for another person, you do it every day I hope.
    There's no rules to easily respect someone, like if you're sister wanted to go by he/him pronouns, came out as trans male, and revealed that she has been keeping how she's feeling a secret for a long time you'd take the time to respect her?
    Also the whole tumblr thing, bull.
    You, and a lot of other people are blaming A BLOGGING WEBSITE for things that have existed for hundreds of years. How low can you go?
    Take a look at my blog. I blog about TV, acting, writing, nature, music and so much more.
    http://imgur.com/cYHPZd8 The first thing on a tumblr blog, a picture of Jared Padalecki (hey i like typing his name) Oh no! How could this be!! So bad!! I like tumblr, I find art ideas there, pictures, videos, music, etc. I don't understand what the big deal is. Calm down, take a breather.
    Being trans isn't a choice??? The choices you make while being trans are important, like choosing a name, pronouns, surgeries, etc etc.
     
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  6. KrisKrikken

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    That's exactly what I mean. Everything we say is offensive to transgenders, there's always something wrong while addressing them
     
  7. sebastiann

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    Yeah, if you just call a trans person by the right pronouns you should be good. "
    Similarly don’t refer to their pronouns as “preferred pronouns"—they’re not preferred, they’re mandatory"
    The other stuff is referring to trans people as a whole. That may be where you are confused.
     
  8. ANumber2Pencil

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    I feel like both parties are in the wrong here. The cis people on this thread who seem to be against Trans people and their differences need to calm down. It's okay to have a different opinion and if you want to go ahead and publicize it, but while doing so don't purposely try and offend others. That isn't voicing your opinion, that is just bullying, plain and simple. Saying you will beat up a Trans if they go to the bathroom is a threat and is sick and twisted. At the same time Trans people need to understand we aren't all perfect and we make mistakes. Trans gender is a fairly new subject to come about in our society and other people may need time to adjust. I know that people have been having sex changes for hundreds of years but it hasn't really been that popular until now. And please don't say "it's simple" to refer to someone as the right pronoun/name, because it may be for you as you spend a lot of your time on this subject but in reality it's not as simple as it may seem. As Tyler mentioned multiple times in this thread, not to call someone <blank> unless they are okay with it. Sorry but I can't read minds and if one of my friends is okay with being called MTF how should I know if you don't want to be. In the end of someone accidentally has a slip up or refers to you in an offensive term just let them know kindly to call you <blank> instead. Just because we say something like Transexual doesn't mean we aren't on your side.
     
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    I don't see what's with you guys, and assuming that a friend is going to get offended and ditch you with 1 single question. If your relationships are that fucking fragile, I'd hate to be in that paper house of yours: one drop of water and it's done. Just have a sit down and a talk with them. Communication is the key to success and happiness, and you people are just going to hit the same brick wall over and over because you're too afraid to go around it.
     
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    Personally, this doesn't bother me as much if someone has a genuine interest in my situation then I'll try to explain it to them as such. I can see why to other Transgender people it may be very offensive because it makes it look like a choice. The term FTM which means male to female, can be offensive because they were never born as a female so they don't want to be refereed to as such and obviously vise versa for MTF.
     
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    Wait, transgender is a choice...?
     
  12. sebastiann

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    Being trans isn't a choice.
     
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    No its not and by saying that being trans is a choice is very hurtful and disrespectful (I know you didn't say this, I'm just simply saying)
     
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    Look, I don't get it honestly.

    I have nothing against trans people, but I just don't get it.

    So I can't call your pronouns preferred pronous, I have to call them "mendatory pronouns"? and if I get them wrong once, I'm the worst asshole on the planet and I just offended them? I also don't get most of the stuff on the thread, as I think it's being taken a bit too seriously. not calling ftm mtf, not calling them their birthname, etc like what

    I don't know.. I mean I can't tell, I'm not trans, I don't know anybody trans, but I just find it sorta dumb
     
  15. sebastiann

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    Everyone calls a cis person's pronouns, simply pronouns. But trans people have preferred? they're simply pronouns. It's kind of hard to explain. Sorry that I wasn't clear!
    It's not that it's offensive.
     
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    I'll try to explain it to you the best I can. Look at it this way, for someone who is a MTF (male to female transgender) their pronouns would most likely be her/she as they're female and vise versa for FTM transgenders. If you refer to them as "preferred pronouns" its like you're saying that we "prefer" to be called this (which is true) but its almost as if it doesn't matter. Calling them "mandatory pronouns" is the correct term because they are what we see ourselves as, for me its her/she but this can differentiate between trans people. So the best way for you to go about this really is to simply ask them what their pronouns are before hand to avoid later fall outs or arguments. If you get someones pronouns wrong and it upsets them just simply say sorry and ask what their pronouns are to avoid later confusion like I already mentioned. Remember, different people may be more sensitive to their pronouns so really its based on the person. I hope this helps.
     
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    This is some of my view on trans people and I would like someone to explain more about them.
    1. Trans is a choice, the day you choose to become the opposite sex, is the day where you CHOOSE to remain or 'change'.
    2. Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Dysphoria is real, I don't get how it isn't?
    3. What is a 'cis' person? I've never seen this word before and honestly I don't if it's made up or not.
    Edit: Looked up 'cis' and really? there's a word for people who are comfortable with the gender they were born with?
     
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    1. A person is born trans, certain people find out later/earlier than others. The choices you make like surgeries/names/pronouns.
    2. Gender dysphoria is real but gender identity disorder isn't. That's basically saying that being trans is a disorder. Sometimes you have to be diagnosed with something along the lines of that to get top surgery (from what I've heard from other trans guys)
    3. Cisgender is a real term, just like transgender. Cis meaning 'same', cisgender means you identify as your given at birth. There is a word.
     
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    1. I thought about it hard and I agree with you strongly, trans is not a choice, you're born with it.

    2 and 3, there are some things I agree with and some not.
    I don't want to get too deep into the topic, due to this being the internet.
     
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    The only problem or question rather that I really have is What classifies someone as Trans? There seems to be many contradicting points I have heard and honestly I am just curious if there is a definite answer.
     
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