You guys just don't get it

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by Yomc, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Yomc

    Yomc ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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    Warning, this thread does in fact contain profanity.

    This thread is real. It's legit. Some of you guys are acting really dumb.
    I'm tired of people posting on people like teolicht's and Chris75S's profile (the latter is banned, of course). I mean, really. Did they do something wrong? Yes. Do they deserve a ban? Of course.
    Then why are you guys fucking yelling at them on their profiles?
    There is a set of internet rules (no, not 34). I believe they go like this:
    Rule 14: Do not try and argue with the trolls. It means that they win.
    Guess what? All of your statements on peoples' profile about how much they are breaking the rules and should leave the community? You just lost to the troll. THEY WANT THAT, PEOPLE. OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES AND REALIZE THAT.
    Honestly, if everyone just didn't comment and let the moderators do their shit, we wouldn't run into these problems. There is a REPORT BUTTON.
    Jerry even showed and example of how not to reply to a flaming comment. Wow, guys. So impressive. You are terrible at avoiding trolls.
    I've said it on the server too. People will say "Jerry and Harry suck this server sucks."
    Anyone who responds to that fed the troll. gg. They won.
    And I love how several people tried to make a Skype group to "save" the forums, and some of the very people in that group are feeding trolls. You are doing the very opposite of your goal.
    So people, I'm going to put this bluntly. Don't be stupid. Someone flaming you? Ignore it. They are WORDS. WORDS ON A SCREEN. If you can't laugh off an insult... If you can't go without telling off that troll... Then you are not mature enough for a public forum. I'm sorry, but it's true.
    So just stop posting on their profiles, because attention is what they want.
    Just contact a moderator.
    That's all. Stop fucking feeding the very things that we are trying to stop.
     
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  2. totallynotlefinn

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    I know they are words
    But they are also real people

    I understand and agree with you
    And i still feel a bit embarassed when you say "Jerry even showed an example of how to not react "
     
  3. Miner

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    Eh, can you not swear as much on that? I see you're mad, and that finally this thread can show people what they have been doing, but still. Anyway, this thread FINALLY shows people what they've been doing. Thank you!!!!! Plus, they're just words, and the troll on the other side of the screen is probably a kid in school who is either a troublemaker, or really unpopular and trying to get attention.
     
  4. Yomc

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    Ah, I swear often, please excuse me :P I was quite mad after all, that's why I warned people about the profanity
    Someone who I consider one of my best friends is a troll sometimes. He goes on chat boards and spams stuff like Bistro, and it's hilarious. It pisses people off. The people who yell at him are the fools who feed trolls.
    He's a 97 student :P but yeah, he has proved that some people just feed trolls way too much.
    Yes, they are real people. But these people are on the Internet. And they will say anything.
    They don't really think that a specific person is a "Gay ass faggot who should kill themselves", he's just saying that because he thinks that people are going to be mad. Which is what the troll wants.
    Bottom line is, that's how it wins.
    And don't worry about the example. Everyone messes up, and everyone learns from them :)
     
  5. WinxClubFan890

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    I feel terrible now. I never really meant to harass Chris7S. I was just kinda mad at what he was doing to the forums. But, it twas an honest mistake. A mistake that I will try not to do ever again. I'm sorry.
     
  6. RockoR

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    Has no one ever learned about bully prevention? Like, basically all of the schools across Canada have bullying campaigns all over the place.


    What's the first thing those people tell you to do?
    "If you ignore a bully, he'll see no meaning in continuing."

    ^
    Same thing applies with trolls.



    About teolicht:

    Does no one notice that he's nine? NINE YEARS OLD. Sure, he abused the like system. Can you blame him? He just wanted people to like him, and he didn't know all the server rules. If we had just told him kindly what not to do, and the consequences of doing so, perhaps we could have stopped him.



    Tell me, how many times have you gone up to a nine year old kid, and said "You don't deserve what you have, I hope you never come back."

    ?

    I'd like to know.
     
  7. ItsCreeper5484

    ItsCreeper5484 #BestDuck

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    Cyber-bullying is worse that physical abuse
    Why?
    Wounds can heal, but words will always stay with you
     
  8. DMachine487

    DMachine487 dead

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    Then again, they know nothing about you and want to make you feel bad to inflate their ego.
    That type of insult you should definitely ignore. After all, what do they know?
     
  9. homieboy

    homieboy Joined J&H since Aug 2012 | Server Veteran

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    The more you yell, the more shit he does. It's basically "feeding" him since he doesn't give anything about your criticize which prompts him to do more.

    Yelling at them may seem like a good idea but it just makes the situation worse
     
  10. RockoR

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    Then why does this exist:

    "Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words may never hurt you"

    -_-
     
  11. CrazyIcicle

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    That's when your dealing with the little league bullies. Cyberbullying has been linked to suicide, and depression, which can't be a 1 week heal.
     
  12. homieboy

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    That's because there are people who troll others who don't give a damn and those who do
     
  13. DMachine487

    DMachine487 dead

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    I also feel like some people are too harsh on new members, such as saying “Use the format!” or “Wrong Section!!” and stuff like that. Not most of the people on this thread and their friends. However, we probably should teach them and the new members, as abuse usually creates more trolls and more people leaving. And for trolls, perhaps we can reply to them, but not really sounding mad or anything, as if they just said something normal.

    Ex:
    YOU ***** SUCK!!!!!!!
    Ok

    And I end with a variation on a proverb:
    He who knows not and doesn’t want to know,
    He is a troll – shun him.
    He who knows not and knows he knows not,
    He is a noob – teach him.
    He who has been on the forums for a while,
    He is a veteran – follow him.
     
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  14. cookiefonster

    cookiefonster Formerly known as WikiRigbyDude

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    We need to stop being rude to new members. Example: My "Stop making "STOP MAKING STUPID POSTS" posts" thread.
     
  15. RockoR

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    ?

    I'm afraid we don't understand what you are trying to say here, care to elaborate?
     
  16. Fluttershy's Assassin

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    Trolls are just arrogant, and flagrantly be douches because they are attention whores. They truly are. I know, I sound like a hypocrite, since I did post on his profile and I was in the skype team(btw, no one even listened to my ideas ._.), but I am in total agreement. We have to learn to be tolerant when we need to. If we are tolerant when the trolls attack, we can calmly contact moderators and everything will be fine :)
     
  17. Yomc

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    It's not really that his feelings were hurt, I'm not defending what he did.
    It's that when we harass him, he wins. That's the only issue. But it's good that you won't do that anymore, it's really good to hear that people agree :)
    I know that about half my grade thinks I'm gay for various reasons.
    Some have said it to my face.
    I don't let it hurt me; because it's only what I think and how I feel about myself that really truly makes a difference in how I am. They can think what they want.
    Same goes for the Internet. What more, these words are from someone on the Internet who are just trying to get people angry.
    It's... Different, in a way. Words on the Internet from trolls really aren't as much cyberbullying as they are intended to get you pissed off.
    Completely different topic, but still a valid point.
    I double posted once when I was new on the old forums. No one yelled at me then, since they got that I was new.
    The same should go for here.
     
  18. athenswill

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    That's only if you choose to give two shits about what the person says about you.
    Now, I am fully aware that there have been some major cases in which nearly the whole internet was involved, but 95% of the time, that's not the case.
    Seriously, if someone is offending you, just remember that there's no rule saying you have to care about what they say.
     
  19. RockoR

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    You need to understand that most cases of suicide or depression due to bullying, usually the victim has made a mistake as well, and they suffer the consequences.


    Here? Not so much.
     
  20. albinobat

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    I was a troll once and I am ashamed of what I did..
    I caused people to send me hate messages and death threats that I just laughed at, Seriously these people are not worth your time, they do this for attention and are not affected by these messages at all.

    The reason I did this was because my life was completely messed up, I was always treated like I was invisible when I was growing up, I never had any friends, and I was always left out, causing emotional scars that turned to anger.

    I turned to the life of internet crime and laughed at people's pain.. That is a really horrible thing that I did and I regret it, I have seen into their eyes and I know that feeding them is just what they want.
    Treat everyone equally and show them that they are loved, it might prevent them from taking the road that I took.