Staff Need To Get It Together.

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by davidkaragezyan, Jun 14, 2018.

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  1. Smg

    Smg Retired | Also known as 'Phaithful' Donator

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    If staff were demoted for splits of inactivity then we wouldn't have a staff team lol
     
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  2. Embracive

    Embracive Former Мod+ Donator

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    First of all, before I begin, this thread is NOT aimed to attack you, rather speak my own opinion out to what you have said.

    Firstly, we do respond to reports. It may not look like it, but we try to hide ourselves as soon as we jump into a lobby, otherwise there will be one person that always says "Oh look, a mod! You're going to get banned now, hacker!" This just alerts the hacker to start either playing legit or toggle very carefully, which doesn't help either party (staff, or the players). Just because you can't see us, doesn't mean that we aren't watching over the community.

    Secondly, what do you mean by staff "showing favouritism to their non-staff friends". This honestly surprises me that people still think this; for example, I am going to speak for myself here, but if a really good friend of mine breaks a rule, I will warn them, just as I would with any other player. You see, if we were to play favourites, we would have been exposed for that very reason already, but as you can see, we aren't playing favourites. If someone breaks the rules, they will be punished, regardless of who they are.

    Thirdly, we try to do our best. Regardless of what you might think, when you report someone for hacking, that doesn't mean that they're actually hacking. Just because someone you report isn't banned, doesn't mean we aren't trying to do our best, we try to prove the innocence of the reported player. We believe in a very important statement; 'Innocent until proven guilty'. As well as what @Smg said, hackers will always be a problem, day in and day out. We can't do anything about that, neither can anybody else in the world.

    Fourthly, you have to understand that staff applications aren't a day task. For example, my first application only got a response 8.4 months later, telling me to update it to the latest layout. We don't judge you on what your opinions are upon the staff team, we judge you on your contribution to putting hackers to rest (i.e reporting) and your attitude to other players on the whole network itself.

    Lastly, yes, sometimes we aren't always correct with bans, but if you can name one staff team that is 100% perfect all the time no matter what, you'd have a point. What some people don't get is that we're humans ourselves, we aren't robots, we do make mistakes, we can't sit on the server 24/7, neither can we be perfect. None of us can. I get that you have had bad experiences with some staff but you not a single human on earth is perfect.

    - Embracive
     
  3. pvpcatsbestfaction

    pvpcatsbestfaction Donator

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    Yay cool a nice reply
    Ok so lets discuss

    Yea yea i get the “not visible” aspect and all but when i do reports nobody ever seems to answer unless its for like language because its a helper and not a mod. Alot of others seem to have the same problem, so i believe its server wide

    The favoratism part has mainly to do with certian staff. I would put names but I see no point. It does happen, i could go in a call and discuss some about it if you really want to because it will take some time

    The innocent until proven guilty mentality in the case of my report wasnt taken into account as there was barley any evidence it was me and it obviously not enough to lead to a ban yet i was still banned.

    Also really? Like cmon this is really blatant

    If you review the footage for more than 10 seconds you will see it

    The application part was just to say yea im trying to help
    Yes some staff do their best, but to say all of them do is not true
    The part about trying to see how it could be legit is not good for one reason, you leave it open to extreme chance such as ping or lag, when the event actully happen is also rare. Another big problem is with the “fakehacker” module and some other things that disguise the player to make it look like its another. This can be a massive problem as real hackers could easily say they were framed and get a unban. The only real way to check is to look at the logs.

    Ok thnx for the cool words bye
     
  4. Sir_Tealsworth

    Sir_Tealsworth Former Leader of Echo, Server Vet, and Build Team Donator

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    This is the equivalent of a guy sat on the sinking titanic, complaining that the bread sticks are stale
     
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    witchchick128 Amity Blight Donator

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    eh that’s true i guess
     
  6. ItsJerry

    ItsJerry DEAD SERVER!!! LMAO!!! Staff Member Owner

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    What is this video supposed to show? Blatantly obvious hacks? cus I don't see it
     
  7. pvpcatsbestfaction

    pvpcatsbestfaction Donator

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    Bruh you legit cant see it? The first hit is a 6.4 block hit, there is a midair 180 for no reason, he starts swinging before getting close to jovan (common thing killaura does), and he uses bhop as soon as he starts toward him (i will admit the bhop is a little harder to ser but its still pretty obvious)


    He was also blatantly bhopping and using killaura in wz for no reason (i have recordings of it but its on my ipad so unless you really want to see them im not showing it because its alot of work
     
  8. RulerofMobs

    RulerofMobs Fuck. Bye, survival. Donator

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    Here's the issue. You may think that it is "blatantly obvious" that he is hacking, but that is partly because you just want him banned for killing you. But the issue is that it isn't always obvious that they are hacking. If they get banned and weren't hacking and are just really good at PvP, then there's an issue. If they aren't banned but are actually hacking, that's an issue. It's really hard to make the right choice in that situation.
     
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    witchchick128 Amity Blight Donator

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    hi blind guys, he was hacking. it’s so blatant my grandma could see it
     
  10. pvpcatsbestfaction

    pvpcatsbestfaction Donator

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    That wasnt me, hes aready banned, he used bhop as i said i have the recording, he has a bunch of diff accounts, many also banned in the past. Its not cause i want them banned, i know they are cheating
     
  11. ItsJerry

    ItsJerry DEAD SERVER!!! LMAO!!! Staff Member Owner

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    lmao this video is literally 1 second of him attacking and then the camera turns around. there is nothing blatant about any of this

    first of all "6.4 block hit", more like 3 blocks bruh, it's definitely in reach range

    secondly this "midair 180" is just the body turning around from a damage packet (you probably have no idea how minecraft servers handle combat/positioning)

    "starts swinging before getting close", lmao you're telling me you never start clicking before being in-range? pvp is literally walking up to someone while spam clicking the attack button

    "bhop": I don't see it at all

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    maybe you think everyone is hacking because they're beating you? lol. not to mention minecraft pvp is inconsistent AF. don't believe me? set up a server and 1v1 your friend. half of the time, 1 side completely destroys the other while the other can't even get a single hit in. that's minecraft for ya

    watch this video and tell me if I'm hacking:


    some of those hits are from like 10 blocks away. it's just how minecraft combat works. do some research and learn how position packets, combat packets, tps, etc works.

    our anti-cheat bans hundreds of players every month, you just don't know it
     
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    Soap Donator

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    This forum shouldn't even be discussed at this point.
    Here is the idea: Everything you said in this forum is based off your opinion; and I get that. But what you said is not entirely true and at this point shouldn't even be discussed.
     
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  13. witchchick128

    witchchick128 Amity Blight Donator

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    well I get that but I definitely saw him bhop/fly
     
  14. noah

    noah Moderator Plus Staff Member Mod+

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    it's blatant ka and bhops, if you don't see it you must be blind no offense lol.

    If you need to, slow down the video you can tell it's ka cause when he jumps he's locked onto the kids at spawn and basically snaps to the recorder + his movement alone shows bhops.

    okay that is all, goodbye
     
  15. ItsJerry

    ItsJerry DEAD SERVER!!! LMAO!!! Staff Member Owner

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    watch this video and tell me how I'm not hacking


    0:00 0:02 0:03 hits without even looking
    0:03 blatant reach hacks
    0:12 blatant kill aura
    0:15 blatant reach hacks
     
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