The Russians

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  1. Joel

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    I'm sorry but I need to get this out there.

    In my own opinion ( If I don't put that, I'll be thrashed by loads of people that get hurt over it ) I believe that this server is an American/English based community. I've been apart of this server for dog years and I hate to see that it's being over powered by non-English speakers.

    What I find even worse is that people think that this is beneficial?? Seems like they only care about the numbers that the server has to show the wealth of it. Jerry & Harry has a beautiful community, but now it's just being tared apart by Russians & Turks. I want something to be done about it, as I believe this is not how to the server should be going.

    Please, understand where I am going with this. I love this server to bits and I care for it, but I just can't be comfortable playing while chat is being spammed by non-English speakers.

    And please don't go saying 'Oh, well umm, turn off chat' - 'Ignore them!', because I shouldn't have to. If you don't think we can't do anything about them, kick them on sight if you see them talking a foreign language, and if they come back and carry on doing it, then ban them. Yeah, may be harsh, but it seems like has do be done that way.

    Cheers, Joel.
     
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  2. MC_Scout

    MC_Scout Fearless Leader Staff Member Manager

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    This server hasn't been "english only" for years. Have you seen skyblock? It's alot of turkish players.
    Also people are seeing this people as "hundreds of annoying Russians who can't speak english" However I see them as hundreds of new people to our server. People that will join our community and buy things from the shop.
    Also isn't everyone complaining about how the server is dying?
     
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    As I see it, I dont think it's fair to punish for speaking a language.

    Imagine speaking English to a friend only to be muted.
    Not very fair imo.

    Turkish people aren't all that bad. Like I get along with them and their adorable broken Englishes.

    The community is about having fun not controlling people's languages
     
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  4. Joel

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    There are russian and turkish servers for a reason. Fair or not, this is an english/american server.

    All I see beneficial that you said there was that they buy ranks and so, but that shows that you care for the numbers, not the people. You dont obtain anything from them buting ranks, nothing. Yeah may pay for the server, but do you think J&H are going to keep the server alive for players which they cannot understand.
     
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    Pretty much why the staff team recruited a few turkish staff members that proved themself to be a good one in handling chat, spammed everyday from turks as idolatry or help or hack-related ones. The staff team was able to find a few ways to be able to understand common terminology from the turks and also some of them tried to learn them. I don't see the problem why you wouldn't let Russians play in the game except financially from what you stated but the server will last longer. The team already tried banning the use of native languages and that didn't worked at all. Like in different countries, locals wouldn't go fucking them up wouldn't they? Atleast appreciate it since they are players not spambots.
     
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    DEPORT THE- no.

    as long as the server doesnt become completely overrun, i think its fine.
    we cant go around banning turks/russians simply because they speak a different language. i was friends with an african streamer that only spoke afrikaans. we worked it out because of google translate, but we agreed that it was too much work and we should stop talking.

    all i'm saying is that, they're people. they just speak a different language.
    im sure they dont log onto ijah just to overrun it and spam our chats with foreign symbols. they log on for the same reason we do.
     
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  7. Glass

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    kick and ban people for speaking a different language than yours? why lol
    imagine if you were kicked for speaking english to someone when a bunch of other people were aswell, you'd be like "what the hell"
     
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  8. Joel

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    I wouldn't be the only one kicked, and if I were to be kicked, I'd expect it to be a different speaking server.

    Right, you imagine joining a server ( you being an english speaker ) And seeing the whole chat not speaking your language, would you stay? All this is doing is driving away the english speaking community.
     
  9. TheMint

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    Your logic is a bit broken, Joel. You start off by saying how frustrated you are because of the foreign languages in the chat and in the community, go on by saying that you believe this community is an English-speaking community, and then when other people say that they're cool with the foreigners, you say that this server is an English-speaking server, even though I've never seen that declared by official sources.

    I disagree with you Joel. The Internet is an international hub for people all around the world to connect together, and this server is a part of it. We're not a closed community, we're open to everyone. I know it's annoying to not be able to understand what people say, it makes you feel left out, but you could look at them as a different community that just plays in the same place that you do. You still have your friends (I hope), and you can still talk to them wherever you want.
    Moreover, I doubt most of these Russians (that, by the way, play on pretty much FarmKing only) will stay here for a very long time. They'll probably just move to the next server, unless _Demaster_ (the Russian YouTuber that brought all of them) decides to make a FarmKing series.

    The Turks have been here for years, why is it only now that you're so bothered by it when the Russians arrive?
     
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    Well, I'm fully agreed with Joel. You're all so lucky only because you don't understand them (unfortunately for me, because i'm from Russia). Because this is a real mess... They are spamming, reviling each other, etc. Sometimes they are veeeeeery disgusting and noisy. This is a real problem for all players.
    And sorry for bad english.
     
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  11. Joel

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    I said this when the turks arrived aswell.

    And no I barely have any friends as most of them have quit because of what this server is turning into and the rest buggered off when I resigned from staff. Shows.
     
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    Sucks. I guess if it bothers you so much you'd have to leave, instead of having hundreds of other players leave for you lol
     
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    Protip: If you see something that looks like "PyccKNÑ", it's probably "Russian".
     
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    It's a world wide community, English or not. I would rather see IJAH be inclusive instead of alienating other people because the people complaining about them only speak one language. If you don't know the language, maybe take time to learn it. I can understand bits and pieces of a lot of languages because I gamed with people all around the world that didn't just speak English. The world can be a beautiful place when you learn to step outside of your little box.
     
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    /warn cykamcblyat english
     
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    If you think you can make a whole community leave the server with one thread you are sorely mistaken. Why don't you leave if it bothers you so much?
     
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    I won't lie, and say that dealing with foreign players can be VERY FRUSTRATING for a staff member.

    Regardless of this, I think that everybody should be entitled to the server and every permission it has, but I fully understand and in some ways I agree with what you're trying to say. It's a case of too late spoken however if you ask me, even though you did claim to bring up the same problem when the Turks arrived. I seriously think it should be observed as this:

    Skyblock/Little bit of KitPvP: Turks
    Minefighter: Germans
    Farmking: Russians/Sometimes Chinese
    Rest of the server: Mostly English speaking.

    If you look at it, there is far more so-called "good" than bad here. I'm not calling you racist or anything of the sorts, but let's face it. No point ranting over the Russians for Farmking, all you do is AFK there, not much else. As much as it can be annoying, I find it good as well, and still like to speak to some of the foreign players from time to time. Heck, we have @OfficerBoring, @Stalin here, both Turkish, speaks both languages very well and is a respected member of the community. There are always players with better English than others.
     
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    I just don't like the Turks on kit who cheat or in general all cheaters
     
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    First of all, I want to get this off my chest. It shouldn't be the 'Turks' or the 'Russians'. We never address each other as the 'Brits' or the 'Americans' so why do we need to address people who speak in a different language like that. It shouldn't be like that, we should address them as part of our community.
    Second of all, I agree with the points that have disagreed with you so far as this server should support a whole variety of different nationalities.
    As for your point of they are spamming the chat, they aren't spamming the chat they are simply talking.
    A 'Russian' could say the English speaking people are spamming the chat, it just isn't a valid argument.


    To add to all of this, numbers are important at this point, we've had so many people attacking the server and leaving because it's 'dying'. Here is an opportunity to stop it from 'dying' so why aren't you taking that opportunity?
    Also on the streets do you expect police to arrest someone speaking a foreign language? Just because something is owned by English speakers doesn't mean it should only be for English speakers.
     
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