If you want to be a staff member...

If you want to be a staff member you need to know what you're getting yourself into. A lot of staff members have resigned and reapplied. It's okay to resign but when you're coming back to the staff team in less than a year or "changing" your mind then it gives an unfair advantage to past staff members. They easily get accepted back when there are people that have been waiting months.

!ATTENTION!

I'm not calling anyone out but, a lot of people apply just for the attention. It's okay to join for the attention but you also need to know that you're applying for a job that you're gonna have to be responsible in. You need to manage your time and resources because it's not all about likes and fame.

!SCHOOL!

Everyone is always using "School" as an excuse to resign. If you know that school has always been a problem then you really shouldn't even give it a try. You need to be 100% that you're ready to be on your computer when you're needed. At the same time, you can't see the future. You shouldn't tell yourself, "School is gonna be hard. I'm just gonna be too busy." because you don't know that for sure (This last part only makes sense if you're applying during summer).

!HARD/BORING!

Some staff complain that their job is hard and boring. You're literally on a computer, sitting on a chair, and you can be eating with a fan in your face all day. You can't really complain that your job is hard when your parents have REAL and HARDER jobs. After all, you're just a staff working in a children's block game.

Staff resign because they get bored too. Honestly, I wanted to apply in the future but I don't think I ever will. I just don't imagine myself getting on having to worry about how much warnings I have to do to look like a good staff. I personally feel like some staff have to be calm and they can't joke around because they need to be professional. If you can't do this, then don't apply at all. And it doesn't have to be completely boring. You can still play with your friends on the server while moderating chat or doing reports.

!HATE!

There are staff that have resigned because of the hate. I don't really know why staff are considered, "Special people" but they're just humans like us. They make mistakes and maybe they don't have the same opinions as us but we shouldn't hate them for it. I've seen a lot of staff get hate on this server and if you want to apply then you need to be prepared for the hate.


I just wanted to create this thread because a lot of staff have resigned and reapplied. I'm not here to judge you for what you do but, you need to be more aware and wise about what you apply for because it's not fair for others who are striving to be like you.

 

The only thing that gives you a headstart from being staff previously is that we know you strengths and weaknesses. Also people all have an equal chance literally no one knew me before I got staff and I got accepted 5 days after applying.

 

i agree. there's lots of staff members who are only in it for the attention and power, it's kinda sad. i know some staff members who are so thirsty for reports because they want a promotion. i used to have a friend on my friends list who would just complain about how hard it is to be a staff member on fr but, every time i'd tell them to resign they wouldn't. @Witha that was before lol, some people need to wait months to get staff and are still waiting but all these retired staff members who come back take their opportunity for a chance at it. also, isn't it kinda funny how some of these resignations are about how busy or boring it is to be staff yet you apply after a month has passed. staff isn't supposed to be fun lmfao... if it's so boring or it takes too much of your time up just resign and give other people a chance.

 

oh boy, another one of these overly exaggerated threads. truly inspiring.

Some people have immediate issues that impact their ability to stay online, so they arrange things where maybe they resign for some time and come back again in a year or so. I don't see how applying again after nearly a year is a bad thing and gives anyone an unfair advantage, anyone can apply at any time and other users who apply for staff don't usually drastically hit other people's chances.

that's not really for anyone to say about, but there can be reasons such as timezones and more as to why they had to resign and then came back. the people who have been waiting months do get a chance!

well, school is a reason that everyone resigns because 90% of the staff team are teenagers who have to deal with a lot of important stuff with schools, colleges etc! sometimes someone might apply (i.e. me) when I was able to sit all day at a computer and manage the game, but after over a year I couldn't. things change.

ok, no. Staff aren't suddenly required 24/7 at any given time to be on the server. if staff are needed, it's not a thing where people have to be there if they're awake... people have a life you know? Nobody is ever really suddenly "needed", sure it might be necessary that they get online but it isn't a requirement that they suddenly log on at every time of an issue.

well actually, you do. I resigned because I knew school would become difficult and I'd be busy because I was entering my last year... where I have to do things like finals exams. Sometimes people can "see the future" and know that school will become more challenging. If I'm leaving High School to go to college or whatever, surely then I know I'm going to be much more busy?

nobody does, really. Sure they might get more attention (using my words carefully here) because they have the role, but they do have a higher role than normal players. Of course, all players are just equally as important, but sometimes staff are going to be regarded as "special" like that because of the big roles they may have on the server(s).

well, of course not everyone will agree with you. However it's not every staff member that gets hated and it doesn't mean that if you become a staff member, a lot of people will hate you. That's a really pessimistic way of seeing working as staff. Yes, some people may not like you but that doesn't mean you'll get loads of hate. just act like a normal person and enjoy working as staff and do your job, there's no need to think about shit like that lol.

 

lmao but we both know previous staff members do have an advantage and are almost guaranteed to get it and usually only wait a few days.

 

Not to be rude here, but I don't think you should criticise staff or cast your opinions on what it means to be staff unless you've actually been a staff member yourself and seen and felt what is behind the scenes.

You can't compare staff jobs to the work our parents do because actual work pays whilst staff work is volunteer work.

This community is very toxic. The players who intentionally borderline rules just to piss off staff really get to us. It's easier said than done to brush it off. Why? Because we can't ignore the people who piss us off. We have to live with them and work with them because of our ranks, and for nothing in return as it is volunteer work.

Staff are allowed to resign and they should be allowed to re-apply if they want. There is no point in having them wait months just to re-apply when they could be actively helping out and working now. Also, just because someone re-applies does not necessarily mean they will be accepted.

 

I understand where you're coming from on a range of points but it's very difficult for people to see ahead and figure out what their schedule is going to be like, unexpected situations appear and you have to solve them.
Granted the jobs of staff are definitely not as hard as let's say our parents and we may just be working for a block game(I don't believe it's only for children) but after all there is more to the 'job' than some people believe and you need to remember we are volunteers these aren't proper jobs.

Ok, some staff may do this, but I don't feel pressured to always have to do the most reports and always struggle to find people to warn, I see it as a job where I help when needed not just for my own sake. Some staff may take the job seriously but honestly staff do have fun from how I've always perceived it.

Also to add to you're point on hate, we should be prepared for hate and we are but the amount of toxicity that is starting to radiate from this community is beyond what many people are used too.
Personally the only reason I'm coping is due to the fact that I've played lots of HC Factions for 3 years and so I'm used to it but trust me when I say this community can attack you brutally which is beyond a level we can be prepared for.

Highlight a couple of my points:

 

Actually you are wrong there are plenty of good ex staff who got denied Just saying.

EDIT: like I said we know how they perform it's not like they are new to the scene.

 

Just because she's never been staff doesn't mean she hasn't seen enough to say something lol.

And I don't know why you think just because they have been staff before their position should just be handed back them. "There's no point in having them wait months", it's not like there isn't tons of people patiently waiting who could fulfill that job and might I add better than those who left.

Also @Witha notice I said almost and usually.

 

They are accepted back early because we know and trust these members because of their previous experiences. There's no point in forcing them to wait when there is a lot of potential.

It also isn't limited to just former staff. New staff are promoted as well.

 

If I had to be honest, I really do understand the frustration with some users having to wait months since I waited 7 1/2 months myself and it was very frustrating on my end. I can't say anything to argue that.

But, in the real world, if someone who has experience in a career wants to apply and you have to choose between them and someone new, I personally would be more likely to choose the person with the experience. Even though this staff position is far different than a real job, they have similarities like this one. Cases where former staff get accepted very quickly after they re-apply are rare (from my experiences during my one year as staff).

The whole topic of a former staff returning really depends on the context though, like unless someone was one of a kind and a G.O.A.T (greatest of all time) I wouldn't accept them back if they keep leaving and coming back. It causes distrust.

 

No one is trying to. I understand that you already know how they'd perform based off of their experience so it's easier to just promote them.

What I am saying is that new members trying to get into the team have a pretty slim chance because they just leave and come back lol.

 

There's a lot of people who haven't had a chance to be staff that probably have a lot of potential as well. I'm not bashing on anyone because I frankly don't care what any of you do with your lives. I'm just giving people who want to be staff some future advice.

 

what if that new person has more potential than the previous one who resigned? what if that new person could bring more to the server? you would never know because you decided to choose someone who already had a chance to show what they could do.

 

As I said it really depends on the context, if it's between a former member of the team and someone with other experience in other servers than oc it would take some thinking. Looking over what the former staff did, what the other applicant did, their historys, many things which the admins are experts at.

Tbh in that situation why can't both be accepted lol, that would work

 

Honestly, this thread really wasn't meant to be offensive to staff that have resigned. If you're offended then I apologize but we all know that this is valid and it's all pure fact. The point of this thread was to give people who want to be staff some advice. Yeah, I'm not a staff but they've probably never been staff before either so it makes sense that they get advice from someone who has the same point of view (Normal player POV) as them.

 

I understand that. I see the frustration as well.
It's like this would you rather question.
Would you rather have 1 million dollars or a fifty fifty chance of 1 billion dollars.
The owners I presume would rather take the 1 million dollars some of the time, they could've gotten something better but it could have been worse as well.

 

Like SMG I can understand the frustration in waiting for months to get a response on your application, when I got accepted to the staff team my application was the 2nd oldest one still left, it had been over 10 months until I finally heard back from a staff member. But I learned it is worth it to just wait, as I wasn't ready to be staff when I first posted it, but over time staff clearly thought I deserved a shot. The only reason you might see ex-staff getting re-promoted is because the staff team already trust them and know how they will act on the team. It might seem unfair but its just the way it is, even though this doesn't happen too often.